Luis Suarez interview: Liverpool striker says people can call him racist, diver and cheat but he sleeps soundly every night

LUIS SUAREZ EXCLUSIVE: Racist Diver Cheat People can call me what they want but I still sleep soundly every night
The Liverpool star discusses what it is like to be one of football's most reviled figures in his first major interview
'What matters most to me is my family, the Liverpool fans and the team. Anything else that goes on is not my problem''Liverpool are the club I wanted to play for, and now that I’m here, I want to stay for a long time'

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23:11 GMT, 22 December 2012

Luis Suarez never directly expresses his exasperation. He is polite, engaging and thoughtful. But he sits with arms folded for most of the interview, as though he fears that judgment has already been made and that nothing he can say will change the verdict.

The controversies are well recorded: his abuse of the Manchester United defender Patrice Evra, which the FA deemed a racial slur, a verdict Suarez still disputes; his reputation for too readily going to ground in the penalty area; his handball on the line that prevented Ghana from progressing to the 2010 World Cup semi-finals; and his general aggression on the pitch.

Suarez, 25, gives the impression that the insults which come his way as a result of his reputation are of no consequence and that the support of his family and his football club, Liverpool, are all he needs. Indeed, he is dismissive of the suggestion that, as a result of the Evra affair — for which Suarez served an eight-match ban — many would now regard him as racist, even though the FA Disciplinary Commission made it clear in their judgment that they did not.

At ease: Luis Suarez says he is unconcerned with the criticism he attracts

At ease: Luis Suarez says he is unconcerned with the criticism he attracts

‘I still sleep soundly every night,’ insists Suarez. ‘I’m not worried about everything people say. I don’t care what people outside Liverpool think.’

Suarez has always maintained that the Spanish word he admits using in his infamous clash with Evra, ‘negrito’, can, at times, be acceptable in his native Uruguay. Suarez now knows that it is not acceptable in England to refer to somebody’s race in this way, but he claims that he remains perplexed by the response to the incident.

‘I don’t understand, but that’s football,’ he says. ‘It’s in the past now. I fought hard to get where I am and now all I care about is playing football for Liverpool.’

He even remains outwardly unmoved by the fact that Chelsea’s former England captain, John Terry, received a four-match ban for racial abuse, half the punishment meted out to Suarez. ‘They’re different situations,’ he says. ‘Terry is Terry and Suarez is Suarez — they’re different issues, and I never cared about the Terry case.’

Yet, tellingly, when it comes to other aspects of the way he is perceived, Suarez does want to explain. On the diving, he wants people to know what it is like to have muscular 6ft 2in centre-halves bearing down on you as you run towards goal or attempt a cute turn.

Going to ground: Suarez falls after a challenge from Arsenal's Thomas Vermaelen

Going to ground: Suarez falls after a challenge from Arsenal's Thomas Vermaelen

‘Sometimes you’re standing there and someone comes flying in, so you move your leg out of the way or you go to ground because you’re scared of getting hit,’ he says. ‘If I leave my leg there so the referee can see it’s a foul, I risk suffering a big injury. That’s why sometimes your instinct tells you to go to ground. It’s a split-second instinct, not a conscious decision you make on the pitch. Of course, I don’t want people to go around saying “this guy just dives”.’

The swallow-dive celebration Suarez performed in front of David Moyes after his goal in the Merseyside derby in October was the Uruguayan’s response to pre-match accusations of diving from the Everton manager, a riposte made even more pleasing when Everton captain Phil Neville was booked for simulation in the same game.

‘Everton was a special case, because the Everton manager came out and spoke about me before the match, saying that people like me are going to turn supporters off going to matches,’ says Suarez.

‘And then, in the match, the Everton captain dived. So that’s why sometimes it’s better to keep your mouth shut. Moyes can talk about me if he knows me, or at least after the match, but before the match it’s not right.’

Courting controversy: Suarez celebrated his goal in the Merseyside derby with a dive in front of Everton boss David Moyes

Courting controversy: Suarez celebrated his goal in the Merseyside derby with a dive in front of Everton boss David Moyes

Suarez’s default position is a defensive one. ‘What matters most to me is my family, playing for Liverpool, the Liverpool fans and the team. Anything else that goes on is not my problem. I don’t read the papers or watch TV. Every time they boo me or chant something about me, it just gives me more confidence to keep playing. I’ve been booed in Holland and in Uruguay — as a professional footballer you need to have thick skin and just get used to it. But right now I’m at the club I wanted to play for, I’m really enjoying myself out on the pitch, because I fought for a long time to get here and I’m happy the club acknowledge what I’ve done, which is the only thing that matters to me.

‘If we’re playing away from home, I know I’m going to get booed. But I also know that if they boo me, it’s not only because of anything I’ve supposedly done, but also because they’re afraid, because they know I’m a player who is a threat to their team. And that’s why they try to unsettle me and keep me quiet in the game … almost. But I never let that happen.’

And he is a potent threat. The skill and the inventiveness were never in doubt but the finishing that seemed awry last year is now much improved, as 11 Premier League goals — including one in the 4-0 victory over Fulham — and three in cup competitions testifies. For some, he is the player of the season so far.

Intriguingly, though, he says he does want to change. Regarding diving, he says: ‘Yes, of course. I’m trying to change and to avoid doing it because I know that football is different here, and it’s helping me at the same time. I’ve discussed it with both managers I’ve played under here, Kenny Dalglish and Brendan Rodgers. Kenny also used to tell me not to protest so much, that I should focus more on playing football, that I have a lot of qualities and so should forget about referees. And Brendan has also told me a few things to help me improve.’

Lucky for some: Suarez hits his 13th goal of the campaign, adding the gloss to Liverpool's win against Fulham

Lucky for some: Suarez hits his 13th goal of the campaign, adding the gloss to Liverpool's win against Fulham

There is a familiar contradiction in sportsmen like Suarez, those who carry a reputation. The image they bear on the pitch is so far removed from their demeanour in everyday life that it is often difficult to reconcile the two. Suarez himself says so.

‘My wife always says that people must think I act crazy at home, too, but that’s not the case,’ he says.

‘Off the pitch I am nothing like the way I am on it. The passion I have for football, it’s very different, I’ve always expressed it like that, that’s the way I play, but I also understand that I need to change. Because it’s not nice to be constantly shouting and back-chatting, it’s not nice for the crowd and for children to see, and it’s not nice for me either. I understand that and I think I’ve made the effort to change a little over the last few months.’

There will not be an immediate transformation, he says, as he tries to strike the balance between retaining legitimate aggression and curbing what is unacceptable. ‘That’s why it’s really hard to change overnight, because of the passion you feel on the pitch. And I don’t like losing, I don’t like giving up a lost ball — say if the ball is going out and I know I can reach it, then I chase it down … that’s the passion you feel on the pitch.’

He draws a direct link between his upbringing and the way he plays now. ‘When you’re a kid, you play in the street, you need to have lots of ambition, drive and strength to play, and that’s what makes you act like that on the pitch.’

Flashpoint: Controversy has been no stranger to Suarez, with the Uruguayan getting an eight-match ban for this clash with Patrice Evra at Anfield last season

Flashpoint: Controversy has been no stranger to Suarez, with the Uruguayan getting an eight-match ban for this clash with Patrice Evra at Anfield last season

For his is that well-told story of the South American boy playing street football, first in Salto and later in Montevideo, the capital of Uruguay. His father left the family when he was nine years old and he was raised by his mother and grandmother, who provided financial help. He has two sisters and four brothers, one of whom, Paolo, plays for Isidro Metapan, the champions of El Salvador, while two others play professionally at a lower level.

In Suarez’s mind, he has had to battle constantly to be where he is now, playing football for Liverpool. ‘Some kids have things very easy here. They don’t go wanting for anything, their parents help them, and by 18 they already have their own cars. It’s not like that in Uruguay: you have to work really hard and for a lot of years. Even if your parents help you to have a car, you have to work and fight really hard, and show a lot of ambition and hunger to go far, which isn’t the case here.

‘In Holland (where he played for Groningen and Ajax) and it’s happened to me here, too, I would look at players who were moving up to the first team, and they already had expensive cars at the age of 18, which I found amazing. Back when I was in Uruguay, the club used to loan me a car, and it wasn’t until I moved to Holland when I was 20, and then when I moved to Ajax, that I could buy one myself.’

He was signed to Nacional, the Uruguayan champions, as a child but looked like missing the cut at 14.

‘I wasn’t on the path I wanted to be on. I was going out at night, I didn’t enjoy studying and I wasn’t dedicating myself to football. When I was a kid, there were some people around me who were a bad influence. When I met my girlfriend Sofia, who is now my wife, I think it all changed. She was very important for me, because she steered me back on to the path I wanted to be on.

Home team: Suarez is always calm and relaxed with wife Sofia and daughter Delfina

Home team: Suarez is always calm and relaxed with wife Sofia and daughter Delfina

‘When I was single, I would go out at night, but then when I had a girlfriend, I would always go to her house at the end of the night, so I had more peace of mind. So it’s about that, the everyday routine. She would also tell me to study and to focus on my ability to play football, and to forget about everything else.

‘I’m the one out on the pitch, but I think if she hadn’t helped me change my life, I probably wouldn’t have made it. Also, I wasn’t playing at Nacional, I was on the bench, some people told me to look for another club, but there were two people who told me to stay and helped me to get another chance. And then I met my wife and that’s when it all changed.’

At times he seems a throwback to the world of Diego Maradona, the street kid with the ball at his feet made good. In Uruguay they use the word ‘botija’ to describe a player like Suarez, the one with the skill, guile and what locals would call cheekiness.

‘Being crafty, a bit more streetwise than the rest,’ says Suarez, attempting an explanation. ‘That’s very common in Uruguay, just like in Argentina, I think because of the way you grow up as a kid.’

But does the phrase accurately describe Suarez ‘I think I am sometimes [that kind of player] but not always. I think maybe the example you’re trying to get at is my handball at the World Cup’

Indeed, it is. That was the day Suarez took a red card for the team and stopped Ghana scoring in the last minute of the quarter-final by blocking a goalbound shot with his hand on the line. The penalty was missed and Uruguay progressed to the semi-finals in the subsequent penalty shoot-out. ‘I think any player in the world would have done that,’ says Suarez. ‘It’s all part of being a little bit crafty, getting the upper hand.’

Public enemy No 1: Suarez attracted the ire of a continent after handballing Dominic Adiyiah's goalbound header off the line

Public enemy No 1: Suarez attracted the ire of a continent after handballing Dominic Adiyiah's goalbound header off the line

While his actions would not be
universally condemned in England — what wouldn’t we do to be in a World
Cup semi-final — it is pointed out that there would be a strong body of
opinion here that would consider such an unsporting act as plain wrong.

‘But if a player is running towards an open goal, you can haul him down
and injure him, and that’s acceptable’ argues Suarez. ‘I think that if
they were doing it for their country …’ he begins. Maybe, it is
suggested, a cultural difference. ‘Right,’ he says. ‘The culture is very
different.’

At Liverpool, the fear must be that he will soon outgrow them, now that they have ceased to become a regular Champions League club, but in August he signed a new five-year contract with the club.

‘All I can say is that my head is here now and for many years to come. My dream and desire is to play in the Champions League and achieve big things with Liverpool, because they’re the club I wanted to play for, and now that I’m here, I want to stay for a long time.’

He cites the club’s tradition and ‘amazing fans’ as the reason ‘we hope that over time, we can take Liverpool back to where they belong’.

He may need some patience for that. ‘Just like I waited to play in the Champions League with Ajax and I had that chance, now I hope the same thing happens with Liverpool,’ he says.

And his enthusiasm for the manager, the club, the city and its people seems genuine. His wife and two-year-old daughter, Delfina, are happy here. He even claims to understand Scouse accents: well, Steven Gerrard’s anyway. Jamie Carragher, he says, is still impenetrable. Some cultural chasms, it seems, are too wide to bridge.

Charles Sale: MCC chief "insults" election hopefuls

MCC chief 'insults' election hopefuls

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22:46 GMT, 20 December 2012

The MCC are embroiled in yet another
internal row after chairman Oliver Stocken astonished members of
cricket’s most famous private club with his comments about the main
committee election.

Stocken, who has been accused by
legal grandee Lord Grabiner of running MCC like a ‘personal fiefdom’,
damned the six candidates in the ballot, saying he wouldn’t recommend
any of them because they did not have the qualities of those retiring
from the MCC committee.

A general view of Lords

Stocken’s letter to members said: ‘It has been decided not to recommend any nominees but instead to refer to the skills and attributes possessed by the four elected members who are due to retire. It is highly unlikely the qualities of the new members will match those retiring.’

The six nominees include Hampshire president and former county captain Nick Pocock and City high-flyer Vicky Griffiths, who has been nominated by Andy Flower and Mike Gatting.

Senior MCC member Laurence Dillamore described Stocken’s comments as ‘the most insulting and condescending communication from the club in all the 40 years I have been a member’. He added: ‘It is breathtaking contempt and directly questions the competence of the proposers and seconders.’

An MCC spokesperson said the chairman’s letter was for guidance and had not meant to be a slight on anyone.

Sir Terry Leahy, former CEO of Tesco

Former Tesco chief Sir Terry Leahy (right), tipped to be FA chairman before David Bernstein was appointed, is again being linked with the role.

Leading businessman Leahy, long-time Everton supporter, England 2018 bid adviser and knowledgeable about the FA through Tesco's sponsorship, ticks most boxes.

But there is doubt whether Leahy could commit at least two days a week to the FA having taken up a number of advisory roles since leaving Tesco.

Others in the frame are Football League chairman Greg Clarke, St George's Park chairman David Sheepshanks and independent FA director Heather Rabbatts. Dame Sue Campbell, who is stepping down from the chairmanship of UK Sport, should certainly be on the FA headhunters' list.

It's Roger and out…

The Lawn Tennis Association remuneration committee, which awarded chief executive Roger Draper his 640,000-a-year package, have Draper as one of two executive staff invitees who attend meetings. And you wouldn’t have put it past the hapless LTA for Draper to be present when his salary was discussed. However, it was confirmed yesterday that Draper left the room before his 201,000 bonus was awarded. Cathie Sabin, the LTA deputy president, would not discuss Draper’s money yesterday but said: ‘The board is backing Roger.’

Moz Dee, talkSPORT's programme director who has done a lot to raise the profile of the station, is leaving to set up Contented Digital Media, supplying original material to broadcasters. Dee, who will want to earn more than he did at talkSPORT, is unlikely to have made such a move without deals – most probably with BT Sport – already in place.

British Olympic Association pleasure at securing Minas Tennis Club in Belo Horizonte for their Team GB preparation camp for the 2016 Rio Games will be enhanced by the knowledge Australia were also chasing the venue.

Hard-hitting BBC political editor Nick Robinson, who hosted Manchester United’s UNESCO dinner, hardly put the players through the wringer. United fan Robinson asked Nemanja Vidic what it was like to be back from injury, Rio Ferdinand what it was like to have Vidic back and Wayne Rooney what it was like playing alongside Robin van Persie. The only remotely edgy question was put to Rooney, with Robinson asking for advice on his hairline.

Amir Khan v Carlos Molina: Danny Garcia"s racist dad won"t stop me this time

Khan: There's no way Garcia's racist dad will stop me beating Molina

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01:12 GMT, 12 December 2012

Amir Khan is such a changed young man that not even the provocative presence of Danny Garcia’s offensive father in the opposite corner here on Saturday night will ruffle his new-found maturity.

That is just one of the promises that Khan is making – to his new trainer, his fans and himself – as he strives to put his career back on track by ending Carlos Molina’s unbeaten record in ‘what has become the most important fight of my life.’

The Americans are trying to inflame Khan by drafting in Garcia Snr, whose racist insults caused our boy from Bolton to lose his head – almost literally – in the second of the successive defeats which have knocked him off his world championship throne and into resurrection mode.

No chance: Amir Khan is determined to defeat Carlos Molina

No chance: Amir Khan is determined to defeat Carlos Molina

It is a mischievous move by Team Molina but Khan says: ‘You will see a different, more mature me in this fight.

'I let Danny’s Dad get to me and I went to punish them with a knock-out too quickly, instead of continuing to break him down, and got caught with a punch from nowhere.

‘That’s why Molina has brought him in but it won’t happen this time. I’ve grown up and nothing will take my focus off my boxing.

'I will be smart and pick my moments to go for the finish. Just as I am insisting on random blood testing for drugs before all my fights, so that I don’t suffer again the way I did in the previous defeat by Lamont Peterson,who we found was on steroids.’

The calming presence of the new trainer – the prodigious Andre Ward’s mentor Virgil Hunter – has played a major part in these rationales. But so has the unexpected fate which befell Khan’s friend and former stable-mate Manny Pacquiao in Las Vegas on Saturday night.

Khan was speaking in the aftermath of the PacMan’s seismic knock-out by the suddenly muscular Juan Manuel Marquez.

Focused: Khan is looking to bounce back with victory over the unbeaten fighter

Focused: Khan is looking to bounce back with victory over the unbeaten fighter

Knockout: Khan is trying to get his career back on track after the devastating knockout

Knockout: Khan is trying to get his career back on track after the devastating knockout

He said: ‘I believe every boxer should submit to Olympic style testing, not only before fights but all year round. Molina agreed for this fight and we both gave blood about five times during our training camps.

‘But it’s not only the drugs testing. Manny and I were both on the wrong end of big knock-outs because we went lunging in for the quick KO ourselves instead of going through the process. We are both great attacking fighters but not so hot defensively.

‘My natural instinct is to fight but I’ve learned from this experience that I must control that impulse.’

Khan, who was widely criticised after falling to Garcia for his presumption in talking up a future mega-fight against Floyd Mayweather, added: ‘I’ve also learned not to look past the fight in front of me. I know that I simply cannot afford another defeat. I have to concentrate on the job in hand.’

That focus excludes any forward notion of going up a division – to full welterweight – to answer the public challenge from fellow Englishman Kell Brook. Khan is not interested in adding poundage ‘until I’ve come back to clean up at 14O lbs ….even if Brook does win a world title when he fights Devon Alexander her in LA next month. It will be well into next year before I even think of moving up again.’

In conversation: Khan chats to Sportsmail's Jeff Powell earlier this year

In conversation: Khan chats to Sportsmail's Jeff Powell earlier this year

That purging process at light-welter will required him to avenge the Garcia KO and that re-match is likely to be the one he seeks next assuming he overcomes Molina ‘even though I don’t think Danny will take it because I was beating him up until he landed that one big shot.’

He adds: ‘Of course I want to mix it again with the best in the world in due course….but not until I’ve re-established myself.’

In truth, Khan has never been as arrogant as he has been perceived in some quarters and it has been more important to acquire this maturity he now sees in himself. Not humility.

Carlos Molina is not alone in wondering and waiting to see the new Amir Khan enter the Los Angeles Arena.

Emre facing jail for alleged racist slur towards Didier Zokora

Ex-Newcastle midfielder Emre faces jail over alleged racist slur aimed at Zokora

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Former Newcastle midfielder Emre Belozoglu could face up to two years in prison after being prosecuted for an alleged racist insult directed at Didier Zokora.

The incident with Zokora happened in April of this year when the Atletico Madrid player was playing for Fenerbahe.

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In the dock: Emre (right) could be sentenced to a jail term

In the dock: Emre (right) could be sentenced to a jail term

He was accused of directing racist insults at the Ivorian Zokora during a game against Trabzonspor and given a two-match ban.

As our video below shows, Zokora took his own form of revenge when the two next met.

But it now appears Emre will have to answer to Turkey’s Public Prosecutor who, according to Turkish newspaper Hrriyet, will call for between six months and two years in prison for the alleged slur.

Claim: Didier Zokora was allegedly racially abused

Claim: Didier Zokora was allegedly racially abused

Emre admitted to having insulted Zokora in English, but insisted there was no racial element. When the Turkish Football Federation banned him for two games they did not state that the abuse had been of a racist nature leading Trabzonspor to lodge the legal complaint.

The Turkish midfielder faced FA charges over racist abuse while in
England in 2007 for an incident in a match at Everton in December of the
previous year.

But despite evidence given by Joleon Lescott, who said Emre had
called team-mate Yobo a 'f*****g negro', and from goalkeeper Tim
Howard, that he had called the same player a 'f*****g nigger' he was
let off because an independent commission concluded that there was a
lack of proof.

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Patrick Collins: Ignore the tacky "Rafa Out" crowd and the bigots, football"s silent majority must set the tone

Football's silent majority must set the tone, not the bigots who just want to be noticed

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02:00 GMT, 2 December 2012

It was a tacky little sign, white
paint smeared on a blue banner, and it said: ‘Welcome to the circus,
starring Fat Rafa as the new clown.’ The letters were slightly smudged
and the ‘n’ of ‘clown’ was squashed against the banner’s edge, as if it
were an afterthought. But the man holding it up seemed strangely proud
of his creation. For the cameras were taking his picture and all was
well with his world.

Other placards sprouted around
Stamford Bridge to greet Rafael Benitez, their new manager. ‘Rafa Out!’ …
‘In Rafa we will never trust’ … ‘Rafa Benitez: Chelsea Fans Do Not
Forget’. The last referred to a trifling slur which the rest of the
world had long since forgotten.

But even as we sniggered, we realised that they had been noticed and thus their object had been achieved.

Spelling it out: Chelsea fans protest before Rafa Benitez's first game in charge

Spelling it out: Chelsea fans protest before Rafa Benitez's first game in charge

Rejecting a Chelsea manager even
before he started his job was clearly absurd but the antics of the West
Ham fans at Tottenham last weekend were darker and far more disturbing.

It is thankfully impossible to
comprehend the characters capable of screaming anti-Semitic insults,
chanting slogans about Adolf Hitler and making hissing allusions to gas
chambers.

But that was the kind of trash which
passed for banter at White Hart Lane and witnesses insist that hundreds
of visiting supporters joined in. You must have read about it; it was in
all the papers.

The clowns and the choristers were at
it again yesterday at football grounds across the nation. And while
their excesses were reported, nobody seemed in the least surprised. It’s
‘tribal’, you see; a way of making a point and gaining attention.

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It’s the sort of thing that they do,
because they see themselves as being part of the action. And many of us
find that genuinely disturbing.

Some time ago, I wrote a book which
considered the various ways in which fans follow their chosen sport.
Some are largely silent, as in golf or snooker. Others, such as horse
racing and speedway, are loud, passionate but distant observers. At the
big tennis tournaments they make their noise only when play is
interrupted, while at cricket Test matches the crowd have grown louder
down the years but remain essentially respectful of the nature of the
game.

And all of them — save, perhaps, the
dreary grotesques of cricket’s ‘Barmy Army’ — recognise the convention
by which the watchers watch and the performers perform.

Dreary grotesques: The Barmy Army in Sydney

Dreary grotesques: The Barmy Army in Sydney

True, there was a time, a few years back, when the distinction grew blurred and some of our major sports were interrupted by streakers. But they were happily eliminated, first by the certainty of arrest, then, far more effectively, by television’s admirable decision to turn its cameras away from their tedious caperings. The ancient truth was reasserted: nobody ever bought a ticket to look at the audience.

As the past week’s events have demonstrated, only football still struggles with that simple concept. Having paid extortionate prices for their seats — which they rarely occupy, since mob culture insists on mass standing — football fans demand a share of the spotlight. Obscene gestures, vile chants, abusive placards; anything goes, anything likely to get them noticed.

For those who truly want to cause spectacular offence, football offers an irresistible stage.

Abuse: West Ham fans taunted their Spurs counterparts at White Hart Lane

Abuse: West Ham fans taunted their Spurs counterparts at White Hart Lane

Thankfully, it remains true that the decent majority are deeply disturbed by the squalid excesses of the minority. And there are broad and hopeful shafts of light. Yesterday, at Millwall’s Den, the local South London derby with Charlton was played on ‘Jimmy’s Day’, an occasion which marked the murder four years ago of a blameless young fan named Jimmy Mizen.

In the years since Jimmy’s death, his parents have dedicated themselves to combating violence and raising the aspirations of young people and yesterday they joined with Millwall’s outstanding Community Scheme to celebrate the advances achieved. So we should not doubt that football can be a genuine force for good.

But too often it sells itself short. Too often it allows its tone to be set by chanting morons, or hissing bigots, or misguided enthusiasts with misplaced pride in their crudely painted placards; all demanding to be noticed. We cannot say with confidence that they would go away if we denied them the attention they seek. But it might be worth the effort.

Flintoff’s fight night is just a bushtucker trial in boxing gloves

His ring walk was fine, his glare was ferocious and he answered the opening bell with the urgency of a seasoned pro. It was then that things started to go wrong for Andrew ‘Freddie’ Flintoff in the Manchester Arena.

Nobody ever doubted his heart or his spirit, since they are his stock in trade. No, his fistic limitations lay elsewhere, in the areas of timing, technique, footwork and strategy. And when a man enters the professional ring lacking all of those basic assets, then we know that we are watching not a genuine contest but a reality TV stunt; a bushtucker trial in boxing gloves.

In fairness, the matchmakers had done their work well. Richard Dawson was what boxing calls ‘a body’. Whereas Freddie was said to have spent the past four months in the gym, Dawson seemed to have passed his time in the Oklahoma branch of Dunkin’ Donuts.

He was two stones heavier than our hero and much of that poundage hung from his waist.

Stunt: Andrew Flintoff won his ring debut

Stunt: Andrew Flintoff won his ring debut

Yet still he threw the only authentic punch of the four brief rounds, a short left hook that took Flintoff off his feet for a few confusing moments in round two. As for Freddie, well, he tried his heart out because that is his nature. He flapped and he flailed, threw frantic punches from the elbow, like a man trying to swat an elusive fly. Yet nothing came naturally to him, since it isn’t his sport. Imagine Mike Tyson attempting a cover drive and you have the picture.

The television commentator, painfully anxious to create a sense of occasion, made much of the minor celebrities at ringside; all ‘good mates’ of Freddie, it seems.

And when the fight was done and Freddie had won — as we rather suspected he would — those good mates celebrated euphorically, as if a world title had been delivered.

Victorious: Flintoff celebrates a win over Richard Dawson

Victorious: Flintoff celebrates a win over Richard Dawson

David Price, the British heavyweight champion and a sensible chap, was asked for his view. ‘It was what it was,’ he said, benignly. ‘You can’t take it too seriously.’

Indeed you can’t, which is why Freddie Flintoff’s boxing career is likely to prove brief, trite and utterly forgettable. Such is the way of reality TV.

PS

England’s leading football clubs paid out more than 77million to agents in the 12 months to September 2012.

That’s 77m the sport will never see again, handed over for no good reason to people of no obvious talent for performing no useful function.

It is a scandal which screams out for investigation.

But nothing will happen, since the consequences would prove uncomfortable.

Still, the Premier League remains the greatest league in all the world. Don’t believe me, ask a football agent.

John Terry escaped with four-match ban because it was a single racist insult at Anton Ferdinand

FA reveal that Terry escaped with four-match ban because it was a single racist insult at Ferdinand… unlike Suarez's repeated abuse at Evra

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UPDATED:

08:52 GMT, 5 October 2012

John Terry dodged a longer ban from the Football Association – as he aimed no more than one racist insult at Anton Ferdinand.

Terry was banned for four games and fined 220,000 for using racist language towards the QPR defender last season.

And the FA have revealed the reasons behind his suspension being half the length of that handed out to Luis Suarez for racially abusing Patrice Evra.

Controversy: John Terry (centre) was banned and fine for racial abuse at Anton Ferdinand (left) at Loftus Road in the Premier League last season

Controversy: John Terry (centre) was banned and fine for racial abuse at Anton Ferdinand (left) at Loftus Road in the Premier League last season

In a 63-page document, the FA note: 'In contrast with a previous high-profile FA disciplinary case involving racial abuse, Mr Terry's racist insult was issued only once.

'Although once is clearly once too many, the Commission accepts that it was said in the heat of the moment. Had it been said more than once, the entry point penalty would have applied to successive insults.'

More to follow…

Roberto Mancini says Manchester City must improve to stay in the Champions League

Last word: Mario ignores keeper's taunts to rescue City but Mancini slams lacklustre side

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UPDATED:

23:11 GMT, 3 October 2012

Mario Balotelli won a war of words to hand Manchester City a Champions League lifeline with a late penalty equaliser.

Borussia Dortmund keeper Roman Weidenfeller taunted Balotelli after City were awarded a 90th-minute spot-kick for handball. But the City substitute ignored the back-chat to wrong-foot Weidenfeller and make it 1-1 before exchanging more insults with the goalkeeper.

City boss Roberto Mancini slammed his side’s performance as 'very poor' and admitted only Joe Hart’s heroics prevented a damaging defeat.

Who's laughing now Mario Balotelli gives Dortumund stopper Roman Weidenfelller a piece of his mind after levelling from the spot

Who's laughing now Mario Balotelli gives Dortumund stopper Roman Weidenfelller a piece of his mind after levelling from the spot

Mancini said: ‘I know the problem and I will solve it very quickly. It’s my job to solve it.
‘If we don’t improve it could be difficult to qualify. We didn’t play well. I’m really disappointed. It was very poor. Joe Hart saved us from defeat. He did very well and saved everything.

'We deserved to conceded three or four goals. We didn't play well because Borussia Dortmund played better than us.

Job well done: Joe Hart pulled off a number of crucial saves to keep City in the game

Job well done: Joe Hart pulled off a number of crucial saves to keep City in the game

Flying save: Hart made a number of top class saves

Flying save: Hart made a number of top class saves

'They probably at this moment are a better team than us. If we want to play in the Champions League we have to play better than tonight.

'We have to run and fight. It's not enough to just have quality.’

Hart made seven or eight top-class saves and was immediately hailed as the world’s best by England team-mate Wayne Rooney, who said on Twitter: ‘I have to say that Joe Hart has been fantastic. For me he is the best goalkeeper in the world.’

Not amused: Roberto Mancini said City were not good enough

Not amused: Roberto Mancini said City were not good enough

City now look as though they will need to win home and away against Ajax in the next month to have any chance of qualifying from Group D.

Group favourites Real Madrid beat Ajax 4-1 and top the group after two wins in two games.
Hart, criticised by Mancini for offering his opinion after last month’s defeat at Madrid, said: ‘It could have been 10-all tonight. I thought their keeper was fantastic. But Mario was never going to miss the penalty. I don’t know if it was a penalty, but we pushed hard and wanted a point.

Trouble at home: City's players look dejected as they fall behind

Trouble at home: City's players look dejected as they fall behind

‘We have come out of the game alive. Off the top of my head, I can’t ever remember making as many saves (as I did tonight). Dortmund were different class.

‘I hope this result is important and that it is not a waste of effort.

‘This game shows just how tough this group is.’

Mancini added: ‘We have to play better than tonight. It’s not enough to just pass. The Champions League is another situation — different from the (Premier League).’

City are yet to keep a clean sheet this season in any competition.

Gary Neville: I relish Liverpool v Manchester United, but we must be civilised

I relish our rivalry, but it's never an excuse to go beyond bounds of decency

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UPDATED:

09:45 GMT, 23 September 2012

When I grew up watching Manchester
United in the Eighties, sitting with my dad in the ‘K-stand’, where
some of the most passionate fans would be, there were times when we left
the ground and it was a battle zone outside.

I vividly remember my dad having to
shield me past fighting fans to get me away safely. But once we were in
the car, it was never mentioned: it was all about the game. That was how
football was and we accepted it. It existed in a ghetto, where
behaviour that would seem totally out of place in normal society was
tolerated.

Respect: The Hillsborough Memorial is adorned with many tributes

Respect: The Hillsborough Memorial is adorned with many tributes

A Liverpool badge

Touching: Manchester United fans left this

It felt as though anything went, not
just in terms of hooliganism but also in insults and chanting. That was
the culture I grew up in as a supporter. And as a player it was the
same. It was as though we lived in a vacuum, where you could trade vile
insults with other players and receive any amount of abuse on any topic
from the terraces.

In the early Nineties, as football
became more popular with the advent of the Premier League, some elements
of crowd behaviour became unacceptable. It is only 25 years ago that
bananas were still being thrown on the pitch at black players but racist
chanting slowly became a thing of the past.

Passion: Howard Webb separates Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher in 2010

Passion: Howard Webb separates Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher in 2010

Hooliganism, too, was reduced with
better policing and running battles outside grounds became a rarity. And
in recent months, even the insults that players exchange have come
under scrutiny, with the John Terry and Luis Suarez cases.

But the authorities went only part of
the way and in the grounds there were instances where football
continued to act as though it was divorced from social norms. Scream and
shout violently in Manchester city centre on a Saturday night and
you’ll likely be arrested: do it in a football ground and you’ll
probably be ignored. Football can still have the feel of going to a
gladiatorial contest from 2,000 years ago, where civilised behaviour
goes out the window. And let’s not forget this has always been part of
its appeal.

More from Gary Neville…

Gary Neville: Scholes is simply the best English player of his generation
15/09/12

Gary Neville: Will Rodgers really be able to curb his enthusiasm
25/08/12

Gary Neville: Like the Olympics, football has to show its humanity
18/08/12

Gary Neville: Italy are not very Italian, they play with rhythm and flair
23/06/12

Gary Neville: I know it's a cliche, but Chelsea's name was always on the cup
20/05/12

Gary Neville: I couldn't say no to England, so the hard work starts now
19/05/12

Gary Neville: Bayern Munich v Chelsea – the key issues of Champions League final
12/05/12

Gary Neville: Manchester City's biggest challenge will be how to keep on winning
12/05/12

VIEW FULL ARCHIVE

This week, though, it seems we have
reached a turning point. The publication of the Hillsborough
Independent Panel’s findings, regarding the cover-up after the death of
those 96 Liverpool fans, brought such shock to the whole country that
the game and fans have had to reflect on what has been tolerated in the
past. In particular, it has thrown the spotlight on the fixture
between Liverpool and Manchester United and how both clubs respond to
their respective tragedies of Hillsborough and Munich, where 23 people
died as a result of the 1958 air crash, including eight United players
and three club officials.

Over the years, I could hardly be
said to have been a peacemaker when it came to the rivalry between
United and Liverpool. My story is well known, how I grew up a Manchester
United fan resenting the fact that Liverpool were winning all their
league titles.

The dreadful feeling I had as I watched Liverpool winning all those titles is a strong childhood memory. I couldn’t bear to hear You’ll Never Walk Alone when I played against them. Liverpool have always been United’s greatest rivals and it has always been the game I wanted to win more than any other. So I don’t mean to get on my moral high horse now.

However, the thought that I or any United fan could take pleasure in the young men and women of Liverpool being crushed to death, or that any Liverpool fan could sing about those young players dying in a plane crash, is something I can’t get my head round.

I relish this rivalry more than anyone but I’m also a sane human being with feelings and a family. As a husband and a father, that level of hatred is beyond my comprehension.

When I read the Hillsborough findings about police editing their evidence and about their attempts to smear the dead, I was disgusted. That’s an issue that goes beyond football. And I don’t really believe those fans who sing those songs truly want their rivals to die and would celebrate that. There may be a very twisted few who feel that way but I think most of those fans think it is just a way of baiting their rivals to get a reaction.

Remember: Before Sheffield Wednesday's match with Bolton more offerings were left

Remember: Before Sheffield Wednesday's match with Bolton more offerings were left

But, as Sir Alex Ferguson wrote so eloquently this week: ‘What happened to them [the Hillsborough victims] should wake the conscience of everyone connected with the game. Our great club stands with our great neighbours, Liverpool, today to remember that loss and pay tribute to their campaign for justice.’

No one will put it better than that. I know there are United fans who are unhappy that there is so much talk about their chanting because they have had to put up with decades of songs about the Munich disaster. And nothing hurts a United fan more than being called a ‘Munich’. But it’s time to let go. It can’t be a case of always having the last punch. This is the moment to recognise the boundaries of rivalry.

Liverpool and Manchester are two great northern cities, born out of the Industrial Revolution. The two clubs have strong working-class roots and have been an inspiration to their fans more than 100 years and especially in times of economic hardships, which both communities have experienced. The cities and the football clubs have so much in common, as do the fans.

This should be an enjoyable rivalry. I don’t want to lose the excitement or the hostility. This fixture should be about Steven Gerrard clattering into Paul Scholes, just as in the past it was about Bryan Robson smashing into Graeme Souness, or Norman Whiteside going in hard on Alan Hansen.

Respect: Everton paid tribute to the 96 at Goodison Park on Monday

Respect: Everton paid tribute to the 96 at Goodison Park on Monday

It should be about wild celebrations and fans being up for every corner and every hard challenge and about goading each other with the number of titles you’ve won or the number of European Cups.

I don’t want this to become like an exhibition match. But don’t allow that to be an excuse for behaviour that crosses acceptable lines. Know the boundaries of support.

I don’t believe we will see a repeat of those chants. The majority of United fans will be motivated to represent their club well. And Liverpool fans are too raw with grief to resurrect Munich chants.

But the challenge isn’t for now, when everyone will be on their best behaviour. It’s how football reacts over the next few years. Let’s use this as a springboard to take away vile chanting of all kinds — the songs about a great football man like Arsene Wenger, or fine players such as Sol Campbell or John Terry — that can be as offensive as chanting about tragedies.

We have to make sure our rivalries are within the bounds of civilised behaviour. Football’s challenge is to emerge completely from the ghetto, to consign that era to the past without losing the passion and intensity of the English game. We’ve done it before, with hooliganism and racist chanting. There’s no reason why we can’t do this now.

I relish Liverpool-Manchester United rivalry, but we must be civilised: Gary Neville

I relish our rivalry, but it's never an excuse to go beyond bounds of decency

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UPDATED:

21:15 GMT, 22 September 2012

When I grew up watching Manchester
United in the Eighties, sitting with my dad in the ‘K-stand’, where
some of the most passionate fans would be, there were times when we left
the ground and it was a battle zone outside.

I vividly remember my dad having to
shield me past fighting fans to get me away safely. But once we were in
the car, it was never mentioned: it was all about the game. That was how
football was and we accepted it. It existed in a ghetto, where
behaviour that would seem totally out of place in normal society was
tolerated.

It felt as though anything went, not
just in terms of hooliganism but also in insults and chanting. That was
the culture I grew up in as a supporter. And as a player it was the
same. It was as though we lived in a vacuum, where you could trade vile
insults with other players and receive any amount of abuse on any topic
from the terraces.

In the early Nineties, as football
became more popular with the advent of the Premier League, some elements
of crowd behaviour became unacceptable. It is only 25 years ago that
bananas were still being thrown on the pitch at black players but racist
chanting slowly became a thing of the past.

Passion: Howard Webb separates Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher in 2010

Passion: Howard Webb separates Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher in 2010

Hooliganism, too, was reduced with
better policing and running battles outside grounds became a rarity. And
in recent months, even the insults that players exchange have come
under scrutiny, with the John Terry and Luis Suarez cases.

But the authorities went only part of
the way and in the grounds there were instances where football
continued to act as though it was divorced from social norms. Scream and
shout violently in Manchester city centre on a Saturday night and
you’ll likely be arrested: do it in a football ground and you’ll
probably be ignored. Football can still have the feel of going to a
gladiatorial contest from 2,000 years ago, where civilised behaviour
goes out the window. And let’s not forget this has always been part of
its appeal.

More from Gary Neville…

Gary Neville: Scholes is simply the best English player of his generation
15/09/12

Gary Neville: Will Rodgers really be able to curb his enthusiasm
25/08/12

Gary Neville: Like the Olympics, football has to show its humanity
18/08/12

Gary Neville: Italy are not very Italian, they play with rhythm and flair
23/06/12

Gary Neville: I know it's a cliche, but Chelsea's name was always on the cup
20/05/12

Gary Neville: I couldn't say no to England, so the hard work starts now
19/05/12

Gary Neville: Bayern Munich v Chelsea – the key issues of Champions League final
12/05/12

Gary Neville: Manchester City's biggest challenge will be how to keep on winning
12/05/12

VIEW FULL ARCHIVE

This week, though, it seems we have
reached a turning point. The publication of the Hillsborough
Independent Panel’s findings, regarding the cover-up after the death of
those 96 Liverpool fans, brought such shock to the whole country that
the game and fans have had to reflect on what has been tolerated in the
past. In particular, it has thrown the spotlight on the fixture
between Liverpool and Manchester United and how both clubs respond to
their respective tragedies of Hillsborough and Munich, where 23 people
died as a result of the 1958 air crash, including eight United players
and three club officials.

Over the years, I could hardly be
said to have been a peacemaker when it came to the rivalry between
United and Liverpool. My story is well known, how I grew up a Manchester
United fan resenting the fact that Liverpool were winning all their
league titles.

The dreadful feeling I had as I watched Liverpool winning all those titles is a strong childhood memory. I couldn’t bear to hear You’ll Never Walk Alone when I played against them. Liverpool have always been United’s greatest rivals and it has always been the game I wanted to win more than any other. So I don’t mean to get on my moral high horse now.

However, the thought that I or any United fan could take pleasure in the young men and women of Liverpool being crushed to death, or that any Liverpool fan could sing about those young players dying in a plane crash, is something I can’t get my head round.

I relish this rivalry more than anyone but I’m also a sane human being with feelings and a family. As a husband and a father, that level of hatred is beyond my comprehension.

When I read the Hillsborough findings about police editing their evidence and about their attempts to smear the dead, I was disgusted. That’s an issue that goes beyond football. And I don’t really believe those fans who sing those songs truly want their rivals to die and would celebrate that. There may be a very twisted few who feel that way but I think most of those fans think it is just a way of baiting their rivals to get a reaction.

Remember: Tributes are left on the memorial at Hillsborough before Sheffield Wednesday's match with Bolton

Remember: Tributes are left on the memorial at Hillsborough before Sheffield Wednesday's match with Bolton

But, as Sir Alex Ferguson wrote so eloquently this week: ‘What happened to them [the Hillsborough victims] should wake the conscience of everyone connected with the game. Our great club stands with our great neighbours, Liverpool, today to remember that loss and pay tribute to their campaign for justice.’

No one will put it better than that. I know there are United fans who are unhappy that there is so much talk about their chanting because they have had to put up with decades of songs about the Munich disaster. And nothing hurts a United fan more than being called a ‘Munich’. But it’s time to let go. It can’t be a case of always having the last punch. This is the moment to recognise the boundaries of rivalry.

Liverpool and Manchester are two great northern cities, born out of the Industrial Revolution. The two clubs have strong working-class roots and have been an inspiration to their fans more than 100 years and especially in times of economic hardships, which both communities have experienced. The cities and the football clubs have so much in common, as do the fans.

This should be an enjoyable rivalry. I don’t want to lose the excitement or the hostility. This fixture should be about Steven Gerrard clattering into Paul Scholes, just as in the past it was about Bryan Robson smashing into Graeme Souness, or Norman Whiteside going in hard on Alan Hansen.

Respect: Everton paid tribute to the 96 at Goodison Park on Monday

Respect: Everton paid tribute to the 96 at Goodison Park on Monday

It should be about wild celebrations and fans being up for every corner and every hard challenge and about goading each other with the number of titles you’ve won or the number of European Cups.

I don’t want this to become like an exhibition match. But don’t allow that to be an excuse for behaviour that crosses acceptable lines. Know the boundaries of support.

I don’t believe we will see a repeat of those chants. The majority of United fans will be motivated to represent their club well. And Liverpool fans are too raw with grief to resurrect Munich chants.

But the challenge isn’t for now, when everyone will be on their best behaviour. It’s how football reacts over the next few years. Let’s use this as a springboard to take away vile chanting of all kinds — the songs about a great football man like Arsene Wenger, or fine players such as Sol Campbell or John Terry — that can be as offensive as chanting about tragedies.

We have to make sure our rivalries are within the bounds of civilised behaviour. Football’s challenge is to emerge completely from the ghetto, to consign that era to the past without losing the passion and intensity of the English game. We’ve done it before, with hooliganism and racist chanting. There’s no reason why we can’t do this now.

Champions League has started in all out attack mode – Martin Samuel

Martin Samuel: Shut up shop Stuff that idea! What a start to the Champions League

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UPDATED:

22:04 GMT, 19 September 2012

They do know it is a league, these teams, yes Six games, home and away, bit of a safety net, the opportunity to make up for lost time. They get that, you think They know the top two go through and it might be December before the full picture emerges. They know it isn’t time to panic. Not yet, anyway.

And matchday one. They understand the meaning there, too UEFA wouldn’t need to give it the primary number, if there wasn’t also matchdays two, three, four, five etc. Agreed Just checking.

So what the hell is going on What has happened to the best teams from the world’s finest domestic leagues, to the champions of Europe, to Jose Mourinho and the most successful coaches from Italy, the birthplace of the defensive stranglehold, that they should collectively decide to play the cat and mouse stage of this competition as if it is football’s equivalent of a demolition derby.

What a goal: Oscar's second strike was truly breathtaking

What a goal: Oscar's second strike was truly breathtaking

More from Martin Samuel…

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18/09/12

Martin Samuel: Hooligans we can deal with, but these sly insults are much darker
18/09/12

Martin Samuel: Fans They're still the last people football thinks about
16/09/12

Don't be fooled: a cover-up could happen again
13/09/12

Martin Samuel: Here's why Manchester United want cash curbs… they are scared of City
11/09/12

Martin Samuel: I sat in the locker room thinking, 'What if I lose this'
11/09/12

Martin Samuel: Olympic spirit Andy forged maiden Grand Slam win over long years
11/09/12

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First, Manchester City’s five-goal rollercoaster at the Bernabeu and now this: three goals before half-time, including one absolute corker, and a late comeback to share the points. And that wasn’t the half of it, really. Both sides will feel they did enough to win.

Chelsea because they were initially two goals clear and Juan Mata missed a very good chance to make it 3-1; Juventus because they were marginally the better side, hit the bar, and took the game to the European champions for long periods. They were chasing, obviously, but even when trailing Italian sides do not tend to commit to attack like this. They work their way back in; Juventus burst through the door with the urgency of desperados. Good for them. What they got, a point, they more than deserved.

On Tuesday in Madrid we saw a match with all the structure and predictability of a sparkler tossed into a box of fireworks, and this wasn’t much different. Chelsea started brightly but could not penetrate, fell a little flat then scored twice, conceded before half-time, looked to be about to further their lead in the second-half and then let in the equaliser. The match ended with Juventus in the ascendancy.

Games like this used to be played in the grip of the tacticians, mapped out on chalkboards in the days prior, stifled and joyless. The last two nights, however, have unfolded as if some imp has put happy pills in the pre-match energy drinks. Close the game out. What we have we hold. Shut up shop. Stuff that. Chelsea, Manchester City, Real Madrid, Juventus. All have gone at it hammer and tongs, and to hell with the consequences. Some think the art of defending is dead; or maybe the art of attacking has never been more alive.

Hammer and tongs: The Italians went all out in search of an equaliser

Hammer and tongs: The Italians went all out in search of an equaliser

It helps to have a player like David Luiz in the heart of the back four, obviously. Gary Neville famously likened him to a player controlled by a ten-year-old on Playstation. He neglected to mention that the child in question had also just been at the Sunny Delight and blue Smarties. Having already blown a 2-0 lead, the final minute of the game saw Luiz where every manager wants his centre-half to be: over by the right corner flag, looking for a winner. He doesn’t need a coach, he needs a restraining order.

Just the thought of Juventus cost one former Chelsea manager his job. Luis Felipe Scolari was removed from his post in 2009 in part because his employer, Roman Abramovich, thought Chelsea would not be good enough to defeat Juventus in the Champions League second round: and the Italians have improved a lot since then.

This season’s Chelsea will have to do a job on Shaktar Donetsk and the unknown quantity of the group, FC Norsjaelland of Denmark if they are to be sure of qualifying because Juventus away on November 20 is going to be tough.

Bombastic: David Luiz attacked relentlessly even with the game in the balance

Bombastic: David Luiz attacked relentlessly even with the game in the balance

Antonio Conte was a key member of one of the most resilient teams in recent memory as a Juventus player and as the coach has created a group in their image. It is no coincidence that Juventus did not lose in winning Serie A last season, and their resilience from two goals down was exemplary.

Juve’s record in England in recent years is dismal – they have not won in ten visits, 11 if one includes the Champions League final defeat to AC Milan at Old Trafford – but Conte has restored the winning mentality. This may even transpire to be a good point, with hindsight. Chelsea may well have played one of the contenders for the trophy.

And it is their trophy right now, do not forget that. This has been a year of firsts for British sport – Bradley Wiggins becoming the first British winner of the Tour de France, Andy Murray winning Britain’s first Grand Slam tennis event for 76 years – and in the circumstances, it is easy to overlook the special nature of Chelsea’s success.

Achievement: Chelsea are the first London side to win the prestigious trophy

Achievement: Chelsea are the first London side to win the prestigious trophy

If so, a banner at Stamford Bridge reminded of the achievement in Munich last May. 'First London club to win the Champions League,' it read. Not just the Champions League, actually. No London club won its elder brother, the European Cup, either.

So to simply play a match as European champions is a historical feat. To successfully defend that title would be unique, too. No club has retained the Champions League in its modern format, not even Barcelona. Nobody thinks Chelsea will either – but then again, few gave them much hope beyond the first leg against Napoli last season.